Why Do You Do What You Do?

Just take a few moments to consider why we do what we do with our animals. I am following Cathy Siretts blog on mindfulness https://themindfulnessjourney.wordpress.com – it is useful to apply mindfulness in the work we do with animals too.

Do you want your horse to do things for a reward or to avoid an unpleasant/aversive stimulus?

Do you want to need to escalate pressure if the horse doesn’t comply with a request? At some point if using pressure/release (negative reinforcement) you may well need to go from the lightest of touch to the harshest of pressure. E.G going through the phases in Parelli training, using a whip or spurs in conventional training.

What do you do if your horse runs off at the first signs of pressure? Do you use a bracing position so they can’t escape? Have you ever consider how the horse feels in that scenario? Positive reinforcement trainers advocate giving the horse a choice – so often start at liberty.

Do you know what equine appeasement behaviour looks like?

Does your horse come to be haltered or do you have to play a game first? Is your horse staying with you to get something or to avoid something?

Want to learn more then look at http://connectiontraining.com or http://horse-charming.com or https://clickerhappyhorse.wordpress.com

Jo Hughes has a just started the Academy of Positive Horsemanship. http://www.equi-libre.co.uk/academy-of-positive-horsemanship – a wealth of resources but a paid for site.

I do use some pressure/release but do not agree with escalating – there has to be a better way with these sensitive animals. They give us so much and rely on us when we keep them in captivity, we owe it to them to be the best horse people we can be.

Benny taught me so much, he still is a little hesitant to go out alone but is getting better with hosepipes etc since we started using positive methods. He was the one who reared and ran off when pressure was applied – he was definitely sent to teach me to be a more empathetic horsewoman.

Everything we do in our horses presence teaches them something – sometimes they learn things we don’t want – so it pays to be mindful in every interaction with them.

The difference between using positive reinforcement as opposed to negative reinforcement is the emotional response of the animal. Behaviours may look the same and the cues can be the same but how does the horse feel? Only the horse truly knows.

If you wish to know more use the above links and get some expert advice, this is not a method but more tools in your toolbox.

Wishing you all a very Happy New Year.

Benny and Dougal

We spent Christmas and New Year in Devon with our daughter Sam. Sam has Benny and Dougal – the 2 cobs.
I rode Dougal a couple of times but the weather wasn’t very conducive to going too far.
On the last ride Sam and I went round the block and half way we had a tractor behind us and needed to get on the grass verge to let it pass. There were 2 ponies coming in the opposite directions who also had to come on the verge. Once the tractor had passed, Benny and Dougal tried to follow the other ponies and took a bit of persuading that they weren’t going the same way. We stood on the verge until they calmed down and reassured them.
We decided to walk the ride as Dougal was still a little excited after seeing the other ponies. Dougal jogged a little and Benny had to trot to catch up. They walked through the ford which was flowing well.
They were possibly a bit lively due to being in all night – the other rides had been afternoon ones.
Benny has settled well, although still hasn’t been out very far on his own.

Horse Charming

Max Easey – horse charmer extraordinaire has a website. An excellent resource for all your horse charming needs.

Horse Charming

Max has studied with some of the best positive reinforcement trainers both in the UK and the USA. As a linguist Max can explain in ways we can understand, making the learning process both educational and pleasurable.

Shaping and desensitisation.

Liz and I spent an afternoon with Suzanne Rogers – a behaviourist. We looked at shaping behaviour without using aversive stiumli or target training.
Shaping as Suzanne explained it seemed to me to be similar to desensitising with out using counter conditioning.
Break the task down into small steps and gradually desensitise the horse to for example having his feet picked up. Start with the goal and then work towards that goal at the speed the horse dictates. At no time must the horse be stressed or pushed to do things using pressure.
Another example is walking over a tarp or other item on the ground, first let the horse sniff and explore it – start with a small item at a distance. Walking over an obstacle can be achieved by using target training. The problem is that the horse may be lured by the prospect of a treat and not be completely ok with the behaviour. It may be more beneficial to use this type of shaping behaviour rather than using either an aversive – (rhythmical pressure) or a target. Let the horse discover for himself that the object is safe. This needs to be done in different contexts as horse may be OK with it in his own field but it will look difference in another place.
Interesting afternoon and much food for thought. This seems to be the type of training we have done in the past to get our horses to happily accept a bridle and to offer feet on the visual cue. We just didn’t have a name for it.

Cognitive-Dissonance Theory

Reading through my Udemy psychology course I have got to the part about Cognitive-Dissonance Theory. This may explain why some people may be uncomfortable with the How Animal Learn course.
Where there is a discrepancy between behaviours and beliefs/attitudes there is dissonance. So people reduce this dissonance by avoiding the behaviour or changing attitudes.
Asking why you do what you do creates opportunites for recognising inconsistencies and you try to find ways to avoid these inconsistencies.
So people try and expain away behaviours (ways of training) which they have just heard are not in the animals best interest and so justify their actions.
Or they change what they do to restore consistency and avoid the dissonance.
All the course does is to present the scientific facts, it is up to us as individuals to decide whether the way we train our animals fits in wth this.

Out of the comfort zone.

Interesting post from a friend today on Facebook about how her “How Animals Learn” course and posts made some people feel uncomfortable. Why? We need this information so we can make informed choices, life is never just black or white.
We are all learning all the time, the more information we have the better able we are to assess the horse and what he/she needs with regards to training and general care.
If the theory behind how animals learn is uncomfortable then it may be due to misunderstanding, misinterpretation or even misleading ways we have been taught in the past.
We all use learning theory in our everyday life without even knowing we do so, but when someones explains why it works that can makes us really think about what we do and why.

If I praise someone for a job well done or remove toys from my child to punish a behaviour I don’t want reinforcing, it all uses quadrants of operant conditioning. Whether it is viewed as reinforcing or punishment is up to the individual concerned. If my child didn’t want the toys anyway it may not be punishing but can be neutral or reinforcing so they misbehave again.

Take time to read and learn about how our horses, dogs, cats, children learn, it does make life a lot easier as we can pick the type of learning appropriate for each individual.

Animal Advocacy

If we have captive animals we are their advocate. We have a responsibility to care for their mental and emotional well-being as well as their physical well-being. So it is up to us to take time to learn about their ethology, anatomy and physiology, nutritional needs and how best to care for them in our man made environments.

Learn from experts, people who have studied these subjects.
As Dr Helen Spence said ” if you want to understand biology learn from a biologist; if you want to learn about a disease go to a specialist doctor or vet; if you want to learn about how animals learn (we are animals too) go to someone who has studied with experts in learning theory or a psychologist who has studied this to degree level.” This is a slight paraphrase of the actually conversation.
More information about Dr Spence http://www.helenspencehorsesense.co.uk/

There are so called “experts” in all these disciplines who do not have the correct knowledge. So if in doubt ask what qualifications they have, ask them to point you to research that supports their point of view. In this age of social media we all have to be careful who we take advice from.

It does astounds me that so many animal owners don’t know much about the anatomy and physiology of animals in their care, although it shouldn’t, as many people don’t know how their own body works.

When we were thinking of getting a budgerigar I bought a book about them, same when we inherited a cat. Before I owned horses I studied for BHS qualifications. Even though I was a senior nurse in a critical care unit I went to specialists when I wanted to learn first aid.

What I didn’t study was learning theory and I regret not doing so earlier.

Max Easey is a good source of knowledge, I did her How Animals Learn course – Max has studied with some of the best animal trainers world wide and is married to a psychologist so can check the facts with an expert.
Max has a post on Facebook about some of the language used by some horse trainers and what it actually means, don’t get sucked in by pseudo-science. Find Max on Facebook

We all want an ethical way of caring for and training our animals, so go out and ask the experts. We all utilise the principles of learning theory but don’t always understand why what we do works.

I can only speak for horses as I have more experience with them than other animals, but even with 40 years of riding and caring for horses I am still learning.

Traditional horsemanship, natural horsemanship and reward based training have a lot of common ground so we must all work together for the good of the horse.

Learning about behaviour

Had a lovely evening yesterday with Suzanne Rogers and some like minded people, learning about horse behaviour. It is good that there are many people who want to learn more – even though all yesterday were holisitic horse owners. They considered the whole animal – physical and emotional wellbeing is essential for a happy horse.
We looked at the five freedoms and got some ideas how to enrich the environment of stabled and field kept horse. Some horses need to be stabled for a variety of reasons but we can help them cope. Let them see friends over the door, place hay in different areas, put vegetables in their stable in a random fashion. Also it is good to look at whether a small holed haynet or a treat ball causes the horse to become frustrated – something I never really thought about before.
Therapy horses were also mentioned – we know that horses are good therapy for people with a variety of problems but we also need to look at what effect that has on the horses emotional wellbeing.
More information on this website – http://www.learningaboutanimals.co.uk/horseclub.html

Emotions in horses.

While studying how animals learn I have been introduced to the work of Jaak Panksepp. Panksepp is a psychologist/neuroscientist whose research suggests all mammals have the same basic emotions.

Here are some of my thoughts on the subject – just my unscientific take on the emotions felt by horses.

Affective Neuroscience
Jaak Panksepp

7 systems for emotions according to Panksepp.

1 Seeking – on all the time
2 Rage
3 Fear
4 Grief – formerly panic
5 Lust
6 Play
7 Care

We must avoid anthropomorphism – i.e projecting human feelngs and attributing them to the horse.
Marthe Kiley-Worthingting termed the phrase “conditional anthropomorphism” which allows us to see that the horse does have emotions and can express rage, fear, lust etc.

How does this relate to the way we train horses?

Panksepp describes the SEEKING system as follows:
“This emotional system is a coherently operating neuronal network that promotes a certain class of survival abilities. This system makes animals intensely interested in exploring their world and leads them to become excited when they are about to get what they desire. It eventually allows animals to find and eagerly anticipate the things they need for survival, including, of course, food, water, warmth, and their ultimate evolutionary survival need, sex. In other words, when fully aroused, it helps fill the mind with interest and motivates organisms to move their bodies effortlessly in search of the things they need, crave, and desire. In humans, this may be one of the main brain systems that generate and sustain curiosity, even for intellectual pursuits. This system is obviously quite efficient at facilitating learning, especially mastering information about where material resources are situated and the best way to obtain them. It also helps assure that our bodies will work in smoothly patterned and effective ways in such quests.”

The seeking system stimulates the dopamine pathways – http://mybrainnotes.com/brain-ocd-dopamine.html

Play, care and lust are all positive emotions – they make the horse feel good.

Rage, fear and grief all have a reason and are necessary for survival – the need to run from predators or escape from capture.

I think the positive emotions are fairly easy to understand – mutual grooming, grazing, mating, playing.

Fear is a physical response to possible attack – invokes the flight/fight response. Which in extremes can caused them to run blindly, more normally it is short lived until the danger has passed. However it takes a while for the hormones to get back to a normal level.

Rage gives a captive animal the energy to struggle free, frustration is a mild form of rage and may be experienced if the animal doesn’t get what he wants.

Grief is more of a psychological reaction to extreme (in the horses mind) events – separation from friends can invoke this reaction.

With fear we can do systematic desensitisation and counter conditioning E.G to scary objects, dogs, hosepipes etc.

Grief is less easy to deal with – gradually separation from field companions – letting realise they will return (any other strategies – please feel free to comment).

The role of food in training.

All horses seek to eat – they are designed to graze continually – they have a complex digestive system which may be compromised by not allowing this behaviour.

Some horses show self-stimulating (addictive behaviour) around food. Geldings and stallions may become sexually aroused when training. They want more and more of the food we have. To help reduce this they need to have the time to chew and process what we teach them.

This is linked to frustration and can escalate to aggression in some animals – if we are stingy with the rewards.

Fixed Action Patterns

Kondrad Lorenz and Niko Tinbergen received the Nobel Prize in 1973 for their work in developing an interpretive framework that crystallised the data they collected on animal behaviour in the field (ethology) and in the laboratory (neuroethology).

They observed what animals do and how and where the individual animals spent their time. They recognised that the behaviour of animals seemed to be constructed of elementary motor and sensory units. (Reference Animal Physiology – Eckert 4th edition 1997)

Motors units were called Fixed Actions Patterns and sensory units Key Stimuli.

The six properties of fixed action patterns:

1. they are complex motor acts, each consisting of a specific temporal sequence of components – they are not simple reflexes.
2. they are typically elicited by specific key stimuli rather than general stimuli.
3. fixed action patterns are normally elicited by an environmental stimulus: but if the experimenter removes the stimulus after the behaviour has begun, the behaviour will usually continue to completion. This all or none property distinguishes them from simple reflexes.
4. the stimulus threshold for fixed action patterns varies with the state of the animal, and the variation can be quite large.
5. when they are presented with the appropriate stimulus, all members of the species (perhaps that are the same age, sex or both) will perform a given fixed action pattern nearly identical.
6. fixed action patterns are typically performed in a recognisable form even by animals that have had no prior experience with the key stimulus. That is these patterns are inherited genetically, although in many species the patterns can change with experience.

The last property has provoked the debate about nature versus nurture and recently epigenetic studies.

All animals have innate behaviour patterns – to understand the species we must understand their ethology. What does mean in terms of horse training?

Is it this small statement that users of negative reinforcement take out of context? A horse will push another horse so we do the same?

They do use pressure when resource guarding – they push another horse off the hay – the other horse backs off. Horse innately know how to read the facial expression of other horses – so the flattening of the ears in a certain way may mean go away or I will do something more drastic.

Does this mean we have to use this system – no because the horse knows we are not a horse and therefore we do not have the same fixed action patterns.

Do horse receive positive reinforce  – yes, by grazing, mutual grooming, playing and mating.

So by our training we can habituate the horse to accept things it may be innately afraid of – e.g trailer loading, clipping etc.

Trailer Loading

Emotional systems which may be triggered:

fear – of being captured in an enclosed space
grief – separation anxiety on leaving the yard

Can we override these systems and replace with more positive emotions?

My thoughts on this are: (these are my personal and non-scientific thoughts) please correct if incorrect or you have any other suggestions.

For my example I will use trailer loading.

A trailer or lorry is an enclosed space which a horse would probably not naturally enter if he didn’t have an obvious escape route.

The horse therefore may be anxious – have a fear response on seeing a trailer – an unusual object.
We can encourage the horse forward by using negative or positive reinforcement or in some cases luring which is often a mixture of the two.

Negative reinforcement (pressure/release) – we can encourage the horse forward by applying pressure and releasing on the slightest movement forward – the removal of the stimulus (pressure) is negatively reinforcing. Repeat this over and over again and maybe go from phase 1 (a gesture to suggest the horse moves forwards) to phase 4 where there is more physical pressure put on the horse.
If all goes well the horse will eventually associate the gesture to load with an addition of the aversive stimuli and work to avoid the pressure.

The horse loads and continues to load and may even load himself. My question is – has the horse begun to like the trailer or has he loaded to avoid any unpleasant things happening? Is the innate emotion – fear – still there? Yes, they do eventually habituate to trailer loading if we are consistent.

Positive reinforcement (reward based training/clicker training) – the horse has already begun to be target trained so will follow a target to the scary lorry – bridge and treat for the slightest try.
Continue this targeting and reinforcement until the horse will load himself following the target.
Again the horse habituates to the trailer and load with us just using a cue. The inside of the lorry now has positive associations – satisfies the seeking emotion – food is provided.

So with positive reinforcement have we altered the horse emotional state from that of fear to that of seeking? So trigering dopamine release rather than just supressing the flight and fight respones?

http://www.journalvetbehavior.com/article/S1558-7878%2811%2900034-7/abstract
Above is a reference to research on the physical state of horse to trailer loading.

If grief is triggered in any scenario then that needs to be addressed as a separate problem – please add any thoughts on dealing with separation anxiety as I have limited experience.

In depressed, shut down horses the seeking system is switched off, some horses have been so micro-managed that they are afraid to offer any behviour incase they get corrected or punished – both clicker training and well timed, non-escalting pressure/release should never cause the seeking system to shut down. In fact in reward based the training the horse will often offer more behaviours in an attempt to get a reward, we can then capture the behaviour we want and reinforce.

Please feel free to comment, pull this apart and add your thoughts. I may be on the completely wrong track with all this – but it a fascinating and complex subject.

Connection Training Day 2

Once again we gathered in the barn for a short session to recap and discuss what people wanted help with.

I will be brief about day 2 as many of the sessions were working on the same concepts.
A – B’s – where the horse is sent from point A to point B using a target.

The first horse a beautiful ex-police horse had been traumatised by the police work – she had bolted in the middle of a London riot.
The owner was doing a great job of regaining trust and now wished to add some forward movement.
Firstly the owner got the horse to go to her target and then sent it to Shawnas’ target. After a few moments Shawna used a cone for the horse to target. The idea is that the horse will eventually go to the target when directed so the owner can train without an assistant.

The cone has to be fairly close to start with and the second person with the target will hold the target on the cone. A target can then be placed on the cone and the horse will go and stand by that until called back and reward of course.

Short sessions of course – plenty of time to relax and process information both for the horse and the humans.

The next horse was doing the same type of exercise as she was not very forward going in the school without pressure. Some great targeting was achieved as the light bulbs went for horse and human.
All of this at liberty so the horse is free to choose.
How good for the horse to be free to decide what he/she wants to do and for them to work it out for themselves.

Then a nice little highland pony came in – similar work with the cones and targets – this time adding a little jump in the equation and send the horse from person to person over the jump.
This adds a little variety especially to horse that like jumping.

One of the horses in the afternoon was a young colt who had only recently been gelded and was still a little pushy around his humans. The owners wanted to start him using positive reinforcement but had a huge history of using negative reinforcement with previous horses.
I do find it difficult myself to not to revert to some of my previous habits when in a difficult situation so they were doing the best they could for this horse.
Shawna went in the field with this horse and got him to stand calmly for the treats but he was still showing signs of mugging and pushing. Shawna came outside and worked in protective contact over the fence.
Any sign of relaxation and him not looking for treats was rewarded.
Then Shawna tried the A to B’s with him and being a very bright youngster he soon got the idea, with lots of enthusiasm and lots of time outs.
The owners went away with lots of ideas to help him settle down.

There was a horse who had been Parelli trained initially and then clicker trained to accept certain veterinary treatments due to a severe injury – didn’t want to move or accept treats the previous day ( I didn’t see the horse the previous day as I went to book into my B&B during that session).
The horse was taken into an area of a field where obstacles were set out and allowed to stand on a pedestal as it seemed to find that rewarding and had no problem with accomplishing the task. Little steps to take to find something the horse likes to do.

All horses need to be allowed to explore and find things out rather than being micromanaged as some horses are who have been trained using pressure and release techniques. We have a horse who was like this and is still a little unsure sometimes about what to do.

The final horse was the yard owners arab, the previous session had been more of a desensitising to the scary arena. Day 2 was about forwards – at liberty using the A to B technique, first sending the horse short distance between 2 people then longer distances and finally over a little jump.
The horse seemed to get the game quickly but Shawna – as always – seemed to be a horse magnet!
So it look a little while for him to go over the jump and not stop at Shawna.
Shawna then inadvertently demonstrated “greedy trainer syndrome”. This is where the trainer asks more of the horse than they can cope with, in this case Shawna raised the jump and over faced the horse. The fence was lowered and he jumped a couple of times and then was jackpot reinforced and allowed to run round freely, as an end to the session.
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What did I learn – a great deal about being patient and not over facing or over stimulating the horse. Slow and sure is better than fast and furious.
How to use cones or similar to create forward motion – first with 2 people and then alone – sending the horse to targets.
Timing is crucial, bridge/click the exact moment the horse does the behaviour you wish to reinforce.
The value of stationary targeting – especially useful when trying to take horse out of fields. Although difficult if the horses are not all your own to train.